tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826793.post114651618139263679..comments2023-10-02T08:28:06.724-05:00Comments on Ecology of Absence: Advertising AnarchyMichael R. Allenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17262548806079447404noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826793.post-1146847681621116742006-05-05T11:48:00.000-05:002006-05-05T11:48:00.000-05:00The billmclellanmofo tags may be original, but the...The billmclellanmofo tags may be original, but they are still a selfish act. <BR/><BR/>Speaking of which ...<BR/><BR/>When I was president of the Downtown Residents Association, I had the pleasure of meeting with a tagger whose ID you would all recognize. He alleged he controlled most of the tagging downtown and offered to stop it in exchange for an incentive. Yes, cash. This punk was absolutely unashamed. He proved to us that he was the tagger in question by pulling up his shirt and showing us the matching tattoo on his fat white belly. <BR/><BR/>We declined, politely of course, because this guy was a friggin mobster. If I'd been wearing a wire, we could have gotten him on extortion or better.O.T. Hodgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04278855960009526958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826793.post-1146629886767129102006-05-02T23:18:00.000-05:002006-05-02T23:18:00.000-05:00Well, considering what constitutes anarchy in the ...Well, considering what constitutes anarchy in the U.S. these days, pretty big. Spraypainting a decades-old slogan and running and/or complaining on stlimc.org would be more comfortably passive a gesture, I'd think. The current state of anarchism in the U.S. seems to be more that of peaceful, occasionally protesting lefties prone to dabbling in Marxist concepts than the more traditional Bombs 'n Revolution™ variety. But hey, tell that to the St. Louis police...<BR/><BR/>And for the last time, if you're gonna deface property, would it kill you to at least do something <A HREF="http://pubdefweekly.com/uploaded_images/bill-mclellan-mf-2-721481.jpg" REL="nofollow">original</A>?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826793.post-1146622774480462112006-05-02T21:19:00.000-05:002006-05-02T21:19:00.000-05:00How big a jump is it from destroying property with...How big a jump is it from destroying property with spray paint to pouring a little gas and flicking a match.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826793.post-1146584326367580892006-05-02T10:38:00.000-05:002006-05-02T10:38:00.000-05:00What's worse is that one of these anarchist group...What's worse is that one of these anarchist groups doing such graffiti call themselves "John Brown's Army." John Brown was, of course, a white man who led a slave rebellion. What does that say about how they think of themselves in relation to those they are trying to "help."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826793.post-1146579794644459032006-05-02T09:23:00.000-05:002006-05-02T09:23:00.000-05:00For anarchists, isn't the act of protest the point...For anarchists, isn't the act of protest the point? If you advocate the destruction of the state, then every act against its forms (against property, against the police, against pop culture, etc.) is an end in itself. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I can live with a little grafitti (though if my house were tagged, I'd probably be asserting my property rights). I also liked the anti-Bush posters that people scattered around town in 2004. Sure, the messages don't effect much social change. But, like anonymous says, what is a reasonable form of protest in this day and age? For instance, the public has pretty much forgotten the Lohr truck drivers. Wasn't their cause just - the more equitable distribution of profit? Weren't they reasonable in asking the public to boycott Budweiser? But, I'd say 95% of City residents simply ignored the drivers, if residents even knew of the strike. It was an impossible mission to beat the Budweiser media machine. Faced with those odds, doesn't protest in the form of vandalism seem the only alternative?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826793.post-1146576581306417502006-05-02T08:29:00.000-05:002006-05-02T08:29:00.000-05:00I live in the neighborhood of this "tagged" school...I live in the neighborhood of this "tagged" school, and it really pisses me off. I have seen it all around Shaw and pretty much all around Tower Grove. <BR/><BR/>I understand the message, but this type of advertising just makes these people look like idiots and pisses people off, which doesn't help the cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8826793.post-1146540972111344512006-05-01T22:36:00.000-05:002006-05-01T22:36:00.000-05:00Having had friends involved in the living wage fig...Having had friends involved in the living wage fight at Wash U., I've done a lot of thinking about what constitutes an effective form of protest these days. Even protesting itself seems to be variable in its effectiveness - certainly something as massive in number as the "Day Without Immigrants" has the possibility of making a difference, but in general, it seems like the act itself is at this point written off (particularly in the media) as the folly of people more interested in the act of protesting than the cause they champion, a development that seems to me to more or less be equally the fault of protestors and their establishment critics. It's got me wondering - what, in the 2000s, could constitute a reasonable form of protest against societal ills without immediately being written off by most of the population? (It certainly isn't vandalism, and I don't think that petitiononline.com is gonna do it either.)<BR/><BR/>This all said, people, this ain't 1920s Latin America, and anarchism has little to no political viability here - what do you intend to accomplish? (And if the state gets smashed, then golly, who's going to clean it up?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com